Derrell
Poole Photo
(note: this is a pre production kit and not all parts shown belong
to the kit)
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Derrell Poole - If I recall, the first stock car I ever built from scratch
was a DSP&P 26’ car in HO scale. There wasn't a kit and certainly there
wasn't anything R-T-R. The next scratch built stock car I made – was a 26’
DSP&P car in O scale. There still wasn't a kit available. In fact, the only
stock cars I've ever built from scratch were DSP&P 26’ cars.
To my knowledge, with the exception of the Cimarron Works
resin kit in S scale there has never been a kit of these cars in any scale. But
I haven’t paid much attention to large scale so maybe I’m wrong.
I've built several Tiffany refrigerators both from kits and
from scratch in several scales. And there have been plenty of kits to choose
from. So what difference would one more kit make here?
Pa-Lenty! Study the photos and observe the high end
production and laser sharp accuracy. And, if you are like me, the idea of a
wooden kit that goes together like a plastic injected kit excites you, little
more needs to be said about what difference one more kit makes. The two kits in the photos are brand new
releases – in fact at this writing they have not actually been released yet.
They come from a new company, The Leadville Shops.
Derrell
Poole Photo (note this is a pre production kit and not all parts shown belong
to the kit.
Only the upper half of the brass etching fret belongs with the kit)
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Doug Junda has
been the promoter and manager of Cimarron Works for more than 4 years and the
former owner of Design Tech Models. He certainly has plenty of experience in
what it takes to run a Model Railroad business. Nor is that to suggest he isn’t
a consummate modeler as well. Doug will be handling your orders and you can
find the company’s contact information below.
“The
Leadville Shops goal is to produce the finest and most accurate models and
components possible…. We also appreciate the importance of providing an
enjoyable modeling experience… We are modelers with high standards, just like
you” - excerpts from the introduction of the Kit instruction set.
I could not say it better. I must warn you, however, that
these are VERY limited run kits. Let me explain so that you will understand how
important it is for you to act as quickly as you can IF you want any of the
kits offered. You will notice that at least one kit in the list below is
already “sold out”. How is that possible? When they tell me that these are
limited run kits they mean just that! There is no set number of each kit they
intend to produce BUT, being modelers themselves, their first interest is to
fill their own rosters for their own layouts. That may sound like an
abandonment of a market-driven compulsion to produce kits - guess what? That is exactly what it is.
Let’s face it; the DSP&P as well as the Colorado Central AND the early
D&RG are not leading the pack when it comes to modeler interest. So this
isn’t a high volume venture to begin with. In all honesty the primary purpose
is just what I said it was, yet, in their interest to help like minded modelers
enjoy the hobby, they hope; A) to give back to the community high quality kits
that perhaps other modelers can enjoy and; B) like all specialize ventures that
costs lots of money to produce, they hope to defray some of their costs and
perhaps offer more new kits in the future.
Derrell
Poole Photo (note this is a pre production kit and not all parts shown belong
to the kit.
Only the upper half of the brass etching fret belongs with the kit)
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This entire
strategy is built on the philosophy that for small specialized markets like
this one, where we all know each other and speak the same NG language, it is
better to commit only offering the fruit of our skills to those folk who will
truly appreciate them rather than a blanket appeal to a mass market. No one
gets rich doing this sort of thing – and that isn’t the point here either. If
there are modeler who don’t really understand or appreciate this philosophy
perhaps we should all wish them happiness with the Athearn-esque mass produced
products. We are talking about fine scale modeling at it’s best. (Narrow Gauge
modelers were the original Proto Modelers before Proto modeling was cool!)
Derrell
Poole Photo - A close look at the Brass etchings for the South Park Freight
cars.
The extra parts in the pre production kits will not be included in
production kits.
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The Cimarron Works - they are crisp, complete, and accurate. The instruction
sheets appear to be complete with diagrams of the parts, elevations and
technical drawings to aid in assembly. In talking with Bill I am told the kits
go together really quickly yet result in an assuredly accurate and handsome
model; in spite of what appears to be a rather intense degree of complexity. I
am not surprised to hear this as I've noted that even the drill holes are
already made for you.
In the next few
weeks I hope to build each of the two South Park kits in S scale and experience
for myself the pleasure of building a laser-cut composite project. I’m not
completely familiar with this type of kit since I've never built one before. So
this will be a new experience to me and hopefully an exciting one to you. Of
course, the objective is to finish with an accurate and presentable model I’ll
be proud to run on my slowly developing layout. Nevertheless, I am truly
excited about the “doing” of the kits purely for the sake of doing. I plan to
build the first 2 kits stock-out-of-the-box per the instructions but I will
also be getting more of each and updating them to my C&S era.
Bill
Meredith Photo – S scale and O scale car bodies.
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Below is a list
of what is about to be offered and how to order. Yes, they are pricey, perhaps
when compared to other products by other less specialized companies. If this
bothers you then I hope you will be happy scratch building your own – and doing
the type of research this kind of quality and accuracy demands. For me? My time
bills out at a set shop rate and while these would be for pleasure I still
expend my time at the same consistent pace. The time I save here should make
them a real bargain to me – and I've DONE the research!
The following O
kits are $75 each:
(all kits less
trucks and couplers)
LSO-1 DSP&P/CC 26’ Stock car
LSO-2 DSP&P/DL&G 27’ Tiffany Reefer
LSO-3 D&RG/RGS/SRR 24’ Boxcar (September availability)
LSO-5 CC 24’ Boxcar #4 (contact for availability, very
limited numbers)
LSO-5 CC 24’ Boxcar #1620 (Sold out)
LSO-5 CC MOW/caboose #26552 (contact for availability, very
limited numbers)
The following S kits are $60 each:
(all kits less trucks and couplers)
LSS-1 DSP&P/CC 26’ Stock car
LSS-2 DSP&P/DL&G 27’ Tiffany Reefer
LSS-3 D&RG/RGS/SRR 24’ Boxcar (September availability)
The following S kits are $65 each:
(all kits less trucks and couplers)
LSS-5 CC 24’ Boxcar #4 (contact for availability, very
limited numbers)
LSS-5 CC 24’ Boxcar #1620 (contact for availability, very
limited numbers)
LSS-5 CC MOW/caboose #26552 (contact for availability, very
limited numbers)
O scale trucks
Union Pacific Type A and B Swing Beam Colorado Central available from Coronado Scale Models
D&RG 10 ton – Price TBA
S scale Trucks
(Trucks
come with Berlyn Wheel sets)
Union Pacific Type A – 25.00pr.
Union Pacific Type B – 25.00pr.
D&RG 10 ton – 25.00pr.
Please note that the details of this listing are subject to
correction by the Leadville Shops and only a final word from them constitutes a
correct amount due on an order.
Contact The Leadville Shops:
Email doug@theleadvilleshops.com
phone (720) 213-4758
Paypal payments to djunda@pdtnetworks.org
Orders will start shipping Aug 1st.
phone (720) 213-4758
Paypal payments to djunda@pdtnetworks.org
Orders will start shipping Aug 1st.
Please watch this blog for my description on how I build
these cars in the near future.
Shipping for the kits is $7.00 for the first and $4.00 for each one after that. The LSS-5 and LSO-5 are in very short supply, less then 20 of each left. These kits have a resin underframe and detail part.
ReplyDeleteDoug Junda
Hi Doug,
DeleteYesterday I sent you an email asking how much money to add for shipping three On3 kits to The Netherlands . Did you receive the mail?
Daniel van Aggelen (as far as I know the only South Park modeler in The Netherlands)
I'd like to see them do 26ft.Litchfield and Barney&Smith boxcars in On3
ReplyDeleteHi Bob
DeleteFor my early C&S Railroad I need 4 of the Tiffany cars and 2 of the Stock cars - and those just happen to be on the above product list. I also need a bunch of other cars that I have not told them about because I know that nothing will happen beyond this product list if we don't support what is offered now.
Nothing at all wrong with expressing what cars we'd like to see offered next... we just have to get to the "next".
I'm just saying....
Derrell
The D&RG 24ft boxcars would be handy for South Park layouts modeling the Leadville boom and the Joint Operating Agreement.Rudnick mentions D&RG cars at Weston and there is a photo of a CRS Trust car at Alpine.
ReplyDeleteExactly. If you are modeling the early 1880s JOA period what is offered now would be a boon as only the Tiffany car might be out of the window - more or less.
ReplyDeleteI'd also like to point out that the Stock cars are good for other UP Subs such as the U&N and the KC and who knows what else? And of course you freelnacers can do what ever you want...
Derrell
Derrell, is there any reason to think that there was more transfer between the two roads prior to the third rail being removed between Salida and Leadville circa 1925?
ReplyDeleteKeith Hayes
Leadville in Sn3
Of course,
ReplyDeleteWhen Trout Creek Pass closed equipment (locomotives especially) passed up and down the line between BuenaVista and Leadville. Also a bunch of equipment came over Marshall Pass in 1911 from Gunnison to Leadville.
Altho the BV to Romley run was all but defunct by 1925 the removal of the third rail certainly helped seal the abandonment of that run.
Derrell
I have placed an order and payment for three of the 27 foot Tiffany reefers in On3. Glad to see these kits available even on a limited basis. I support the Leadville Shops efforts.
ReplyDeleteLee Gustafson
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Where's Roper's Snapshot?Why not one of the 2 photos on DPL take near Como Depot showing a dwarf rotary switchstand?
ReplyDeleteDo you have a call number for this pic please Mr R.?
DeleteUpSideDown
C.
in New Zealand
Z-6055 Look in between the double headed locos and the outfit car.X-7519 Look in front of #30's tender and beside #4's snowplow.Note that #30 has a straight stack in this picture.
DeleteDerrell, I'm not sure if anyone is still looking at the comments from last months Mogul Month , so I thought I should post here to make sure you saw it. First of all I wanted to add my thanks to you and the others who participated in these very interesting comments during Mogul Month. This was far more information than I ever expected to get about these engines in my chosen era, 1900, give or take. I'd to ask some questions about C&S # 4 as appears in the picture at the top of the blog for June 21: Roper's Snapshot No. 5. My questions are mainly to clarify the colors on # 4 and are as follows:
ReplyDelete1st, the front door is open outward against the boiler and appears a light color- green?
2nd, the boiler I suspect would be the 'titanium buffed' color i.e. American or Planished Iron, this extending to the part of the boiler inside the cab.
3rd, in this photo, the domes appear to be all gloss black rather than having the dome top and base 'burnt metal' as in your photo of you # 21, is that correct?
4th, the pilot (including the pilot beam and pilot deck?) as well as the cylinder jacket, crew lockers an coal fence would be in Pullman Green, or was that color not used yet on this engine at that time?
5th, I expect the nosing on the running boards, cab floor and headlight platform to be brass.
Finally, I want to point out something I noticed while looking at this photo. The rear area of the tender, i.e, between the end verticle seam and the right of the 'S' on the tender flare. There, rising above the flare to a height of approx. half again the height of the coal fence, there is a form appearing to span the area at the back of the bunker and between the sides of the bunker. This object seems to have triangular shaped ends, standing above the flare as I said, with the back side being verticle and the front side sloping toward the back with the apex forming a curve. These are the ends this object which as I said extends across the width of the bunker. Further, approx. midway across the top of this object, there is a vertically standing pipe of a small diameter - 1/2" to 1" ? I expect that this appears to be the elussive oil tank that provided fuel for the trip up and down the canyon.
I hope I have explained this satisfactorally and made reasonable sense.
Mike Keplinger in Pittsburgh,PA
Hi Mike,
ReplyDeleteThanks for expressing appreciation – it’s a lot of work. Darel and I have both been away over the weekend so he must have only posted the latest of your messages (?). I didn’t see anything under the specific topic.
First I want to make sure you realize these are my theories. I don’t have official color schemes and it seems no one does. So the colors I suggest are my best guess and you all are quite welcome to dispute.
1) Several people have suggested the windows were painted mineral red and perhaps even the inside of the doors as suggested by the photo of 71 at Pitkin in 1902 (and dolled up as a Passenger Engine). It looks like a different color but I don’t know what that would have been.
2) This engine has always looked black to me. Consider that the lettering was gold leaf on vertical surfaces then look at the lower side of the boiler – it doesn’t strike me as any lighter than the cab side. Certainly not lighter than the lettering – which I think it would be if it some type of planished iron jacket. At least that is my argument.
3) I coud accept that the domes were all black. This was the first engine rebuilt and many things are atypical to the standard “image” of a rebuilt mogal – read experimental “everything”.
4) The headlamp and its bracket were not black. The headlamp is lighter than the vertical surfaces of the boiler – at least that’s how it looks to me. I tend to think the cowcatcher and pilot beam were the same color as the boiler and cylinder jackets. But there isn’t enough comparable surfaces to me so I’m not sure – and this was experimental. But I could be wrong. The jacket could be a dark green and all shiny that might look black. The pilot deck - a rarity to be sure - was probably the same color as the walkways. And what color was the headlamp? Green does seem to be a reasonable guess.
5) I believe brass was the trim used on these places.
6) This engine could have had a sloped backstop in the coal bunker – but that wasn’t very typical.Or this could have been the gate thrown up against back stop. On the other side (toward the rear) there were braces on either side of the fill hatch. These shapes could give the illusion of something unusual…
Oil wan’t used until 1902 so I think the fill tube is probably something off behind the engine.
Derrell